Wednesday, July 02, 2008

...One of the better discussions we've had!


Blatantly plagiarised from http://mostlyfordistraction.blogspot.com/ (Neha's blog)!

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One of the better discussions we've had
This is true blue..something I kept for the record, since both of us lock horns on varied subjects. In hindsight, I believe I was so much engrossed in telling him what I felt rather than respond to him, the conversation becomes one-sided in many places.All the content is left as it is..with spelling errors, and places where smileys were used, are not transported to word files.


Neha Arora [1:38 PM]:am not gonna read about a movie
Neha Arora [1:38 PM]:i have never liked reading until i see it
Neha Arora [1:38 PM]:even a book
Neha Arora [1:38 PM]:i read The Class
Neha Arora [1:38 PM]:Eric Segal
Neha Arora [1:38 PM]:it's some 500 or more pages
Neha Arora [1:39 PM]:liked it
Biprorshee Das [1:39 PM]:Segal usually writes short novels and good ones
Neha Arora [1:39 PM]:this one's a mammoth read
Biprorshee Das [1:40 PM]:Segal got contorted, mutanted, brain dead and Danielle Steele was born
Neha Arora [1:41 PM]:i think three or four novels of sheldon could come out of The Class
Biprorshee Das [1:41 PM]:you like Steele?
Neha Arora [1:42 PM]:nope, no idea about the stuff she writes (i presume it's a she, since i have read it or heard about it from someone)
Neha Arora [1:42 PM]:somehting thriller
Biprorshee Das [1:42 PM]:she is the mother of soap operas
Neha Arora [1:43 PM]:sheldon's novels could be traced to segal
Neha Arora [1:43 PM]:esp The Class
Neha Arora [1:44 PM]:there is a multitude of characters
Neha Arora [1:44 PM]:spinning in and out
Biprorshee Das [1:44 PM]:yes, that is very characteristic of Sheldon. Too many characters
Neha Arora [1:44 PM]:not just that
Neha Arora [1:44 PM]:those typical heart breakign blows in between a smooth happy story
Neha Arora [1:45 PM]:like the couple is smiling,,and has a long run of stability..then a divorce..and towards the end, with separate partners, and happy again
Neha Arora [1:45 PM]:so much so
Biprorshee Das [1:45 PM]::
Biprorshee Das [1:45 PM]:
Biprorshee Das [1:45 PM]:Requiem is well analysed on Wiki. I'd suggest a read once you've watched it
Neha Arora [1:45 PM]:sheldon lives off it
Neha Arora [1:46 PM]:practically on such things
Neha Arora [1:46 PM]:fame, ambition
Neha Arora [1:46 PM]:these things are dealt with such passion n rigour
Biprorshee Das [1:46 PM]:true
Neha Arora [1:47 PM]:it's a state of unhappiness, perpetual toss n turn
Neha Arora [1:47 PM]:they feed it
Biprorshee Das [1:47 PM]:hmm
Neha Arora [1:47 PM]:am sorry, u must think am carried away
Biprorshee Das [1:48 PM]:of course not. i'm glad you have such deep perspectives.
Biprorshee Das [1:48 PM]:i usually do, about something i like or don't passionately
Neha Arora [1:48 PM]:ownership of perspective lies with the author
Neha Arora [1:49 PM]:it's what he t ried in his novel
Neha Arora [1:49 PM]:feed
Biprorshee Das [1:49 PM]:i'd beg to differ there.
Biprorshee Das [1:50 PM]:i'd say as soon as an artist has made his creation public, he has lost his ownership. he has thrown it open to his audience to accepting his creation in the way they are most comfortable. A piece of art, according to me, has no definite route to take but a skeleton key that opens every door it is used for
Neha Arora [1:52 PM]:i don t think so
Neha Arora [1:52 PM]:when i create soemthing
Neha Arora [1:52 PM]:i know why i did it
Neha Arora [1:52 PM]:i knw why i made it the way it is
Neha Arora [1:52 PM]:yes it's open to interpretation
Neha Arora [1:53 PM]:do it
Neha Arora [1:53 PM]:but it's not cognitive
Neha Arora [1:53 PM]:cognizance is mine, if i dare say, u may or may not 'relate'
Biprorshee Das [1:53 PM]:
Biprorshee Das [1:53 PM]:you're right too
Biprorshee Das [1:53 PM]:which again proves my point as well
Biprorshee Das [1:53 PM]:that there is no thing as a wrong notion in art
Neha Arora [1:54 PM]:if i wish to kill my character with the help of her husband
Neha Arora [1:54 PM]:i have made it that way
Neha Arora [1:54 PM]:u may call it page 3 representation, i may have done it thinking something else
Neha Arora [1:54 PM]:someone rich and famous
Neha Arora [1:55 PM]:ownership of perspective lies with the artist
Biprorshee Das [1:55 PM]:i'm not a big advocate of artist's copyrights because i don't think they deserve it. A piece of art shouldn't be anybody's exclusive property because the instinct of creation is natural and hence the end product should be dedicated to the natural cycle of existence as well.
Neha Arora [1:55 PM]:u may fill me up with ur reasons as to why u think the story i wrote was blhab lha blha
Biprorshee Das [1:55 PM]:
Neha Arora [1:56 PM]:but u r a READER
Neha Arora [1:56 PM]:i am the WRITER
Neha Arora [1:56 PM]:i am establishing a heirarchy
Biprorshee Das [1:56 PM]:of course. and being an audience to your creation, i'm giving it worth. and i have a say.
Neha Arora [1:56 PM]:bcz i think the natural instinct to give my thoughts a FORM
Neha Arora [1:56 PM]:A RECOGNIZABLE FORM
Neha Arora [1:57 PM]:is my talent
Biprorshee Das [1:57 PM]:i so hope Plath was alive to see how her poems are being analysed in Literature classes. Maybe she didn't even mean it that way, which I very strongly believe is the case
Neha Arora [1:58 PM]:i will never step over an artist's creation saying The Class is this or that, i may link it to sheldon, but i say sheldon copied segal,,who knows, maybe sheldon didnt'..that's the fun
Neha Arora [1:58 PM]:in fact, in the novel
Neha Arora [1:58 PM]:a famous Odyssessy
Neha Arora [1:58 PM]:Odyssesy
Neha Arora [1:59 PM]:is created by a pianist and a poet
Biprorshee Das [1:59 PM]:of course it's your talent and YOURS alone. You are more talented. You create something and that is your place in the sun. No one can dare take it away from you but talent is your reward to love and nurture further. Your creation according to me, as soon as it leaves your womb is the world's citizen
Neha Arora [1:59 PM]:the critics n audience
Neha Arora [1:59 PM]:audience thrash it
Neha Arora [1:59 PM]:the poet goes insane
Neha Arora [1:59 PM]:and teh pianist is under special insistence of his producer
Biprorshee Das [2:00 PM]:anybody saying, "a piece of art is this or that..." is being arrogant and foolish, I think. What I mean and how I would want to comment is "The way I see it...."
Neha Arora [2:00 PM]:forced to give into a young pianist's creation to "make changes"
Neha Arora [2:00 PM]:and TIME loves it
Neha Arora [2:00 PM]:they r showered with awards
Neha Arora [2:00 PM]:"because it's the public who can relate it to something else they love it
Neha Arora [2:01 PM]:they couldn't like or appreciate
Neha Arora [2:01 PM]:it in the pure form
Biprorshee Das [2:01 PM]:the pianist as a genuine creator will never give into his audience and create what his audience would unanimously love. He will continue to create and abandon his works in the world
Neha Arora [2:01 PM]:he is deemed arrogant
Neha Arora [2:01 PM]:and also
Neha Arora [2:01 PM]:the young pianist claims he is overrated as said in the classroom
Neha Arora [2:02 PM]:where he learnt music
Neha Arora [2:02 PM]: so this pianist of ours, the creater
Biprorshee Das [2:02 PM]:according to me, that is the true creator who loves his talent to create more than his product's acceptance
Neha Arora [2:02 PM]:lives under that, but eventually the awards make him feel great
Biprorshee Das [2:02 PM]:this is a very serious and one of the better discussions we've had



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